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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 27 January 2014, 17:12 »

Understand. In my case, I'm very particular about what runs in the background so I periodically take the time to disable anything unnecessary, especially following a program installation. Of course that still leaves critical programs like Norton which I leave as is even though it can be notorious at times. But I clear out any snippets which run at startup for programs I don't use daily. However, I do have some items which the casual user doesn't, like VMware and drivers for a RAID Mirror of drive D: which isn't using the intel chipset. But if I happen to figure out exactly what's causing the problem, which I still may do at some point, I will definitely post it here.

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 25 January 2014, 16:01 »

I disabled almost all the non-Microsoft services using the System Configuration tool (msconfig) and after running a rebuild and scan the lockup issue is gone. I don't plan to narrow down which service(s) were causing the problem because it would be too time consuming... it could be one, or a certain combination, and they're all necessary for one thing or another. But at least we know it's a third party driver causing the problem and I'll just disable them all before using CMPro.

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 23 January 2014, 15:25 »

Thanks for the info everyone. I'll check a few things to see if it makes any difference, but in all honesty I don't update Mame all that often so my use of CMP is limited. But if I do happen to find what's causing the problem, I'll definitely report here. In the next couple days I'll try to disable multiple drivers and see what effect that has. If it eliminates the lockup, I'll narrow that down as well. Either way I'll fill you in.

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 23 January 2014, 02:21 »

Yes, that sums it up.

One more comment and a question regarding the long rebuild time and the Windows lockup.

For the rebuild, I specified the source directory as one which included all the rom updates from 139 to 150. I specified the destination directory as my rom folder, but I'm not sure that was right. Since my rom folder contained non-merged sets, and the rebuild was creating split sets, should I have specified both folders as the source and an empty folder as the destination?

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 23 January 2014, 02:00 »

Source and destination files are standard zip files.

The length of time may have to do with the source files being Mame 0.139 non-merged sets being updated to Mame 0.150 split sets? I don't recall the size of the 0.139 rom folder (I have a backup on an external drive but can get it if you need to know) but the size of the 0.150 rom folder is 204 GB.

It's one thing to narrow down a problem among 74 samples but to narrow one down among 28,496 rom files is another story. Don't forget, it's Windows that locks up... CMP runs successfully to completion so there are no clues as to where the problem is. The best I can do is unzip all the roms and see if WinZip runs into any errors but if you have any other ideas, let me know.

Thanks

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 22 January 2014, 17:10 »

Seem to have another crash issue... during a rebuild... only this time the PC freezes. I'm able to move the mouse during this time, but nothing else... not even click on another window to bring it to the top. The only option was to shut off the PC with the power button. Same thing on second attempt but this time I realized CMP is still running so I let it finish (several hours) but the computer never recovers and I still have to use the power button.

I updated my system about 5 months ago... Gigabyte MB, Intel i7-3770K Ivy Bridge, 32GB ram, 3 TB and 2 TB hard drives,  and fresh install of Windows 8. No issues running Adobe Lightroom, Autodesk AutoCAD, or playing Diablo III for hours on end, so this surprises me. But if either of you happen to have any ideas or suggestions, I'd be interested in hearing them.

Thanks

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 22 January 2014, 01:30 »

No more scanning issues so just wanted to say thanks for the fix.

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 21 January 2014, 18:30 »

Attached 005 and wotwc which cause CMP to crash. Thanks.

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 21 January 2014, 17:39 »

By coincidence I just finished narrowing down the problem sample files and logged in to mention what oxyandy brought up. There are two sample files... 005 and wotwc... both extract and play without errors, but cause CMP to crash. Although the 005 samples are nothing but 44 byte silent sample files so I'm not sure what's up with that... and it looks like 005 isn't even used by Mame anymore. But yes, I agree they shouldn't cause CMP to crash. My next move will be to update my sample collection so thanks for the link.

No matter what I untick before running a scan, if Samples is ticked, it will crash. Let me see what I can find out about the file dates and report back.

Thanks. I really appreciate the info.

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 21 January 2014, 04:28 »

Uninstalled previous version. Downloaded ZIP version. Extracted contents to D:\CMP. No longer have to run as Administrator but it still crashed exactly as before. I noticed the last file in the display windows was a sample, so I unchecked Samples from the items to scan and it no longer crashes. Thought I might have a bad zip file in the samples folder but I checked and they all extract properly, so I'm not sure exactly what the problem is. If anyone has any ideas, let me know. Otherwise I'll remove them in groups until I can single out the problem. Thanks.

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clrmame Discussion / Re: clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 21 January 2014, 01:21 »

Disabling the show statistics option does not prevent the crash.

About running as Administrator, maybe I wasn't clear enough in my first post so let me try this...

I initially installed the "64 bit" version to "Program Files". I ran the program as Administrator per the instructions. It ran fine but constantly crashed at the end of the scan. I therefore uninstalled the 64 bit version.

I then installed the "32 bit" version to "Program Files (x86)". I understand I shouldn't need to run the program as Administrator, but unless I do the program won't run due to this error...

"Most likely you installed clrmame in an UAC protected folder or cmpro's tempfolder is locked. Please check if 'run as administrator' solves the problem or cleanup the tempfolder manually."

At this point, I apparently have two separate problems...

(1) I can't use the 32 bit version without running it as Administrator even though it's installed in the (x86) directory, and

(2) The program still crashes at the end of a scan.

I've had no other issues with my system and everything works flawlessly. As far as the 32 bit version requiring me to run as Administrator my bet is a poor uninstall of the 64 bit version.

Thanks

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clrmame Discussion / clrmamepro Crashes

« on: 20 January 2014, 21:32 »

Haven't used clrmamepro in a few years so I spent some time trying to figure this out but no luck. Although I'm using Windows 8.1, I don't think that's the problem. I installed the 64 bit version of clrmamepro 4.012a in Program Files and set it to run as Administrator. I created a dat file from the mame.exe file, set my rom and samples paths, and ran the scanner without any of the fix options checked. The scan runs and creates a Scan Results list, which is what I was looking for. But at the last second I get a Windows dialog box which says "clrmamepro has stopped working" which of course closes everything. When I restart clrmamepro I have to start over with creating a dat file.

I uninstalled the 64 bit version, and installed the 32 bit version in Program Files (x86) instead but it also required me to run as Administrator... "Most likely you installed clrmame in an UAC protected folder or cmpro's tempfolder is locked. Please check if 'run as administrator' solves the problem or cleanup the tempfolder manually." I changed the setting, and ran the program but it does the exact same thing as the 64 bit version. Tried searching about the tempfolder but everything I find refers to a clrmame.ini file, which doesn't exist in my installation folder.

I'm thinking of installing an older version to see what happens but could really use some help on what the problem is. Thanks.