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clrmame Discussion / Re: Questions...
« on: 09 April 2025, 01:09 »
Roman,
   Here's a link to that mameui... https:  //limewire.com/d/3kKrE#6bc3TaqDtT   <- This was my own compile and not inline with the 276 source.

That got me thinking & wondering... I completly forgot that since MAME updated to the new CPU with x86-64-v2 processor instructions set requierment, on this older PC I've had to use my compiles to be able to pull the xml with CM. With the V2 requirement and official MAME.exe CM gives all kinds of errors trying, and sometimes it did complete the pull but def didn't scan correctly.
I can't remember if 274 and the new requirement was the 1st issues I had with this but I'm willing to bet it was/is. Next release I will use the baseline 277 source to compile and see what happens. Or I can just pull the xml off of 1 of my newer PCs and use it on this old one to scan. (Right? The xml file should be the same for scanning.)

      Big Thanks! - Again!

-Had to add a couple of spaces to the link, Spambot didn't like it!

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clrmame Discussion / Re: Questions...
« on: 04 April 2025, 04:49 »
1 - That's what I figured.
2 - Dead on. I did overwrite the old hash files with the new ones so I'll guarentee those old ones are still in there.
3 - It only does that on my 1 computer on the 1st scan with a new version of MAME. If I get time I'll see if I can repro it before the next release or I'll just wait until then and I will be certain to pay more attention to see what goes on. Then I'll get back to you if need be. I'll bet that it's something on my end in that old set-up.

Thanks for the quick answers and definetly for all your time spent doing this!
Have a good one!

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clrmame Discussion / Questions...
« on: 03 April 2025, 01:38 »
Couple of quick questions for you Roman... (these are all done on the latest versions of all programs btw, 1 on WIN11 & 1 on WIN10)

     1st the easy one:
With the new v5 chd's, CMP tells me they need to be upgraded but CMUI doesn't mention it. If I turn on "Check SHA1" will that solve the problem or is it something just not added yet? Sorry, I didn't think about trying that until earlier.)

     2 - Software Lists - MegaCD list - Supposedly megacd, megacdj & segacd were all combined into 1 megacd SL. CMP does this correctly and got rid of the megacdj & segacd folders by combining them into the correct folder. But, CMUI wants all of them in the megacd folder but then also wants the megacdj files in that folder & the segacd files in their folder too. I really don't want 2 copies of all 1.23g just to make my list clean. Any idea if it's something I'm doing wrong, CMUI, or MAME itself?

     3 - This is the strange one.
When I scan with CMUI, not fixing just scanning, I end up with 12 random SL files in my samples folder. I don't have SL on this computer anymore but it's pulling them out of the back up folder. And then when I rescan with remove uneeded file, it won't touch them. Just keeps reporting them as uneeded. I can't even make up a reason as to why this would happen but this is the 3rd version that it's done it. Theories? Next month I'm going to empty out the backup folder and see what happens is my next step unless you or someone else has an idea...

Thanks again for all your hard work!

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clrmame Discussion / Re: ClrMAMEPro / MAME 0.274 Issue
« on: 20 February 2025, 00:22 »
I had the same issue myself. I thought my Phenom II was "new" enough to not be concerned about it buuut...no go...
OC it worked just fine on all my other newer pewters...
You can still compile MAME yourself and CMP will pull the xml's just fine from that on your older PC.

But that brings me to another issue that reared its head while I was playing around with the above problem.
I tried both scanners on another PC(with a newer processor) and still couldn't get a good pull from MAME. So I tried 2 others
and both of them worked just fine. WTH?
Long story short, on the 1st computer I have the scanners set up on N: (a 6Tb drive), plenty of room for backups and profiles
right?  Well, I failed to notice that my C: drive (somehow) was down to >2gb free and the scanners were using that drive for the
temp files(I assume?) so there wasn't enough room for the files so it conked out with an error.

Roman: Is it possible to change the location of those temp files(if that is the problem - Does CM use it's own temp folder?) and
would that effect the speed of pulling the xml or the scan itself if someone had an older slower spinner drive in that location?
Just curious...

Again, thanks for all your work!

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Thx again Roman!

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Thanks again Roman.

Looks good!

Just to add to the benches from MAMEWorld:
Full scan with pulling hash(no SL) from v.170 release file on a 4tb external USB 3.0 drive - 9mins 14 seconds... Not too shabby!


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Double checked the empty folder issue and it's definitely there as you can see in the 1st 3 attachments. Says they are unneeded but just doesn't want to get rid of them...

Yes, I have it set to complete(see last screenshot) and those are still in there but I understand what you're saying about it not showing those too. It would still be nice to have the option of showing them listed somewhere though if for nothing else, just to know where things belong if there was a problem to troubleshoot. I checked by adding the main roms folder with only -listsoftware active and none of those are included with the main xml lists. They are still missing if you include the regular -listxml list.

Another oddity that I don't know if you can answer or not. I had a couple of folders in my SL that the scanner said were unneeded but have hash files in MAME's hash folder. They are also available on Pleasuredome's Github. 1 example I can recall would be "advantage". I searched though MAME and the source on github but can't find anything that uses it.

Carbeena is another system oddball that got added and has it's own SL xml in hash, but scanner says it doesn't belong in SL. I guess maybe this is more of a mamedev SL question/problem than 1 for you?

Side note: On the expansions in the viewer is there a way to expand all at once or is that a WIP still?

      Thanks a whole lot Roman!

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Roman - Got an update for you...

I went ahead and updated my back-up drive and tried a couple of things that came to mind to test. Most worked or I figured out.

**( Ignore this one for now, I am going to double check this again and get back to you on it(unless you know offhand that it does delete them.))**
- This is from the fmtowns_cd issue from before. The scanner does delete the clone chds and leaves the "floppyname.zip" in the main folder but then leaves the empty chd folder behind and only marks it as unneeded. It does not delete it.

 - Question- I imagine at some point you are going to add a confirmation dialog for fixes? Sorry if that's been asked before but I don't recall seeing it...

 - This is probably a stupid question but here goes. In the attached screenshot I have set tp show all complete, partial, fully missing & empty machines/sets. It's not showing what those 114 empty machines are that I have circled. I know it's not devices & such, there's a lot more than 114 of those. What exactly is missing there?

      Thanks again!

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Ok, no big mystery on these 2. They are also clones and share chd's with the parent.

Scanner seems to be working as it should. Good deal!

Thanks for the help!

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Thanks Roman.

1- I will check out those chd's tonight when I get a chance.
2- That's what I had figured was happening but had hoped it was something on my end and didn't mean a fix on CMP's end.

Thx again & I'll let you know on the 1st issue as soon as I can.

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clrmame Discussion / Difference in CMP & scannerui with SL
« on: 07 August 2024, 04:47 »
Roman,

   Couple of questions that just popped up for me on this MAME update and some peculiar results I got scanning the software lists.
If you look at the 2 attached png's you'll see all the missing chd's from the scans. First scan I had all the missing files in the correct places and CMP said everything was fine. I then scanned it with the latest new scanner and it told me I had a lot of unneeded files so I went through and moved all those files aside manually( Whilst doing this I also came across some unneeded directories and some that were misnamed and fixed those thanks to your new scanner.).
Re-scanned and scanner was A-OK now but CMP told me I was missing all those files. I also noticed that all of the files were clones so I dug a little deeper into the xml's. All the files are the same or share others with parents they just have a different file in the set. Either a different 1st or 2nd chd or as I found out, especially with the fmtowns_cd SL, they have a floppy to boot from that the other doesn't.

   My scans were done with the same MAME.exe on the same drive with the last CMP and the latest new scanner version. I do this with every new release every month so here's my questions:

Why hasn't the new scanner pointed these out before v.268? Something that was changed?
I have them both set to split sets so the new scanner is correct but CMP is wrong?
I didn't see any changes to those specific SL's this month so I'm just trying to figure out what changed. These are the same files I've been scanning and fixing since they were added to MAME.
Sorry this got a little longer than I wanted...

Otherwise it seems that your new scanner is doing a great job! Saved me about 4gb of unneeded files this month.

    Again, thanks for all your hard work!! A lot of people out here really appreciate what you're doing!

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Thanks for the new code Roman!
Looking good so far!

I think I have found a bit of an oddity though. Scanned the new mameui .267 with clmpro & the new nameless scanner.
This popped up in the Greyhound Trivia games, set 7a to be exact.
Besides finding a possible extra "." in the source, it makes this happen(at least for me, maybe I'm doing something wrong):

I can have 1 scanner remove the "." to make it correct but then the other complains about not having a "." and I can go back & forth adding/removing "."s for as long as I like...
Is it something to do with the character "." itself or something else in the new scanner?

Also a couple of suggestions for the ui version:
-For the output/warning window at the bottom...you've got it sizeable but it only pulls down the top main issues window.
Can you make that lower window able to be re-sized also?
-Besides editing the settings file by hand, is there a way to delete the saved I/O paths? (Maybe I'm missing something simple?)

Thanks again for taking the time to do all this.





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clrmame Discussion / Re: loveber3cn Missing Set ARXMAX
« on: 05 June 2022, 05:15 »
When CMP goes back to check the parents status might it bypass(internally) the chd rule and look for the chd in the parent to see if IT is complete?
Then, without its chd, CMP would mark the parent as missing/incomplete, and without a chd or any other unique files to fall back on, lovber3cn cannot be complete or even there?
Just a thought...

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clrmame Discussion / Re: Cmpro "misplaced a romset" !?
« on: 05 June 2022, 02:33 »
Those are all systems, not roms.
They should be in your "software" folder & unpacked since that zip is probably already full of zipped files for the system...

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clrmame Discussion / Re: Continued from MAMEWorld...
« on: 20 March 2021, 02:07 »
FWIW this tells you a little about what was there at some point.
http://prntscr.com/10qgbby
That's my original CMP folder from 2007.
Obviously though I did not correctly uninstall the 32bit version back in 2008 when I upgraded to the 64 bit version & must have just deleted things as I felt fit to do...(Bad me...)
So there were some remnants left behind, but none have given me any trouble until now if that was the cause &
I honestly don't think I've looked in detail at that folder since upgrading until now, never needed to except to look through the backup folder maybe a few times...
Also my update started working before it auto-installed that 32 bit version.
Here's the entirety of the folder in case that might help...   http://prntscr.com/10qgj3t

Thanks again...

 

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clrmame Discussion / Re: Continued from MAMEWorld...
« on: 19 March 2021, 02:54 »
Roman,
As much as I'd like to say it worked & you fixed it, I can't say for sure. Last night I was still messing with getting the update to work to no avail.
But then the last thing I did was turned off the Auto Refresh of the WWW DATS in the profiler in the .ini ( Pro_AutoWWWUpdate = off ), restarted CMP & hit Update and it checked. Why that would have done anything I haven't a clue. It said there was an update available & I hit yes so fast I didn't get to see the version # it said I had & it downloaded & installed 4041. I said yes save a copy of the file(luckily). It then said my version is up to date & it's still working tonight. Don't know why or how but it is working again...
Now the next weird thing...I looked at the file it saved & it was the 32 bit version but I had been running the 64 bit version.
http://prntscr.com/10pip9s
So I downloaded the 64 bit zip & overwrote the exe & all is well again it seems.
Even though it probably doesn't confirm anything now that mine is working, I did d/l your 1.0 & updated again through that and it worked fine.

I did find 1 other small suggestion for you, when the profiler is doing a database update, you can get an error that says something about either you stopped the process or the exe is corrupt, well, it might be nice to also add in there that the disk maybe full or lack of space on drive too...
That drove me nuts for a few minutes last night too! LOL

I'll keep checking this update thing on here & try the other exe if it does stop working again & let you know. If not I'm sure Sune or 1 of the others on MameWorld with the same problem would be happy to help you out too.

Wish I had something more concrete to help you out with.
Thanks again!

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clrmame Discussion / Re: Continued from MAMEWorld...
« on: 18 March 2021, 01:39 »
Thanks Roman.

I understand & I should have realized the difference in the 2. Just didn't think through the processes of each.
Thanks for your time.

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clrmame Discussion / Continued from MAMEWorld...
« on: 17 March 2021, 04:42 »
"WTH is up with that now?" Well, nothing really changed over the years and as I said (I know this doesn't help) 'it works for me, everywhere, everytime"

From users who had the problem I got information like "If you monitor the network you see that the server simply directly replies with a 403".
If I remember correctly, the lookup and download of information does 2 small http(s) requests. Maybe that's interpreted as too much traffic somewhere  or -since this only happens since emulab switched to https- something is bad there.
However the latter can be tested pretty easily....I could put the update files somewhere else and modify version64.ini to look it up on the new url.

Anyway...this should be continued on the cmpro forum.

In regard to the 2 small requests, if that were the problem then I would think that the Homepage & Donate link buttons shouldn't be working either.
But they do...

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Setting up softwarelists paths in a combined profile is really a pain...yes...that's why I advice people to not use it (I actually already though of removing it).

Just a thought on an easier way to achieve this for a complete all-system software list scan. In the settings menu under the dropdown for ROM-Paths, Sample Paths & the like, add 1 for the Software Lists folder. Just use that as the main directory for all of the software list folders. When CLRMAMEPRO goes through that main folder, if a sub-directory matches a MAME software list, use it, if not, ignore it altogether. If someone has an oddly named folder , let them change that in the System list or simply add it as another directory either in the new Software List Folder window. The vast majority of people have things set up how MAME wants it "software/system-name/item-name" so that would cause the least amount of trouble I would think.

Get rid of the Auto-Assign, just use the user assigned Software List path to start in & then look for the MAME assigned folders in there.
Suggestion:
Leave the System Button in there for the [Standard], [Mechanical], [Devices] & [Bios] directories. And either leave the [Soft] in there, put them under a different button, or get rid of them altogether & only allow the changes to be made under the NEW Software Lists dropdown in the Settings menu.

Just a couple of quick thoughts for you that don't seem like they'd be too difficult to do. But then again, I'm not the one who has to deal with the code!

Thanks for everything! You've made rom-life a lot easier for A LOT of people...

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