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clrmamepro [English] => clrmame Discussion => Topic started by: Old Wolf on 27 May 2015, 11:37
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Roman
I have an easy question about MAME/MESS merger. I am a long time MAME fan (17+ years) and enjoy ensuring that I have a complete file set after every MAME release by using your wonderful program. I have never had an interest in MESS. With the MAME/MESS merger, my question is whether I will be able to direct CMP to look/check ONLY for MAME related files and completely ignore MESS? And if so, can you tell me how?
Sorry if this question has already been answered or is self-evident.
Thanks for all your tireless efforts in supporting the emulation community.....
Old Wolf
Austin, Texas
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Not for MAME [Arcade] version only.
MESS as subtarget
Arcade as subtarget
MAME as unified Version (MAME [Arcade]+MESS)
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As far as I currenly know (haven't looked at the final xml output yet)...there is no flag in the standard compile to differ between former MESS and MAME sets. Any assumption like "got softwarelists" won't lead to anything useful....
sooo....unless someone adds an XML element/attribute to differ between a machine and a machine (you see the point ;-)) you won't be able to do a good separation...
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Any assumption like "got softwarelists" won't lead to anything useful....
heh, that's exactly what I did for my frontend Emu Loader. All machines that have a "softwarelist" entry are excluded from the main games list, except a few machines required for multi-slot loading: neogeo, stv, megaplay, vectrex.
I know it's a dirty hack, but It works pretty well and no arcade games were excluded as far as I could see. I even made Emu Loader generate a .txt file with all machines excluded from the list, so anyone can check it for themselves and make sure no arcade machines were left out.
But there are lots of console/computer entries still being added. Without some kind of "systemtype" tag in -listxml output, it will be impossible to filter non-arcade machines.
This is a temporary solution until MAME have a tag like the one above to categorize machine entries in -listxml...
I've just removed this from my frontend. EL will list all MESS drives, even if you can't run anything with them.
I'll probably make no further efforts to hide MESS machines.
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Roman
I have an easy question about MAME/MESS merger. I am a long time MAME fan (17+ years) and enjoy ensuring that I have a complete file set after every MAME release by using your wonderful program. I have never had an interest in MESS. With the MAME/MESS merger, my question is whether I will be able to direct CMP to look/check ONLY for MAME related files and completely ignore MESS? And if so, can you tell me how?
Sorry if this question has already been answered or is self-evident.
Thanks for all your tireless efforts in supporting the emulation community.....
Old Wolf
Austin, Texas
I'm with you Old Wolf. Like you I've been playing arcades since a very young age and when I first discovered MAME back in 1998 all my dreams had come true ;)
I also have no interest in MESS and only care for the arcade side of MAME.
Anyway, now onto my situation / question. I've just downloaded the latest version of MAMEUI64 v.163 and want to see what I'm missing from my complete v.162 ROMs / CHDs. I've create a DAT file from the above executable but when running a scan all MESS stuff is appearing...
I've read AnnaWu's post but can't figure out how to exclude MESS. Can anyone please assist?
Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere.
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What you know as MAME and MESS is now "MAME"...easy as that. If you use the official MAME binary within cmpro, you get everything, computers, consoles, arcade machines. Live with it. MESS is dead.
You can compile MAME yourself with an arcade only target. If you then use this self-compiled binary, you only have the arcade stuff.
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Thanks Roman. I know MAME and MESS are now combine ;)
With "MAMEUI64 v.162" all was good as it was compiled using only "Arcade". In "MAMEUI64 v.163" it's not the case...
Don't really want to play around with compiling my own version of MAME. Guess I'll just have to wait for AntoPISA's MAME dats where you have the choice to use either:
... MAME 162 Arcade.dat
... MAME 162 Full.dat
... MAME 162 Home.dat
Thing is, if the above have previously been created then surely there's a way for me to do this also?
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Well...if MAMEUI .163 returns non-arcade sets you should ask the author ;-)
Compiling MAME yourself is easy...the tools are available at mamedev.org (and there's an installer...you don't really have to do anything complex...) plus a "make" call...
I don't know who or how the mentioned dats were created...
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Alrighty, cheers Roman.
Also a big thank you for your continued efforts with ClrMAMEPro. Been using this for many, many years now to assist with MAME / TOSEC sets etc.. Don't know what I'd do without it ;)
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Yeah I have to agree here. It's hard to tell what you are really missing just for arcade with all these other systems mixed in. In one release now I'm missing 8000+ ROMs. How am I supposed to sort that out? It wound be nice if there was some MAME (arcade only) search toggle.
Would switching back to an old version of Clrmamepro solve this?
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no it wouldnt solve this. and actually there is nothing to solve. there is only Mame now. Mess is dead. There is no flag in the listxml output which let you identify non arcade sets.